1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 2 00:00:04,079 --> 00:00:06,099 Hello , everybody and welcome to 3 00:00:06,110 --> 00:00:08,220 another edition of the Tinker Talks 4 00:00:08,229 --> 00:00:10,451 podcast . I'm Clayton Cummins . We have 5 00:00:10,451 --> 00:00:13,260 got quite the podcast for you today . 6 00:00:13,270 --> 00:00:15,492 We're here with Lieutenant Colonel Matt 7 00:00:15,492 --> 00:00:17,899 Stillman from 72nd security forces , 8 00:00:17,909 --> 00:00:20,076 sir . It's a pleasure to have you here 9 00:00:20,076 --> 00:00:22,242 today . Thanks for joining us . It's a 10 00:00:22,242 --> 00:00:21,770 pleasure to be here . I'm excited . 11 00:00:21,780 --> 00:00:24,250 Yeah . Now I'm really interested to 12 00:00:24,260 --> 00:00:26,879 hear your career . You're actually in 13 00:00:26,889 --> 00:00:29,239 Okie . I actually am . I was born in 14 00:00:29,250 --> 00:00:31,361 Oklahoma City many , many years ago . 15 00:00:31,361 --> 00:00:33,583 Uh , only lived here for about a year , 16 00:00:33,583 --> 00:00:35,639 but I called myself an ok for a long 17 00:00:35,639 --> 00:00:37,806 time because I was that proud of it at 18 00:00:37,806 --> 00:00:39,972 the time . But now you are right . And 19 00:00:39,972 --> 00:00:42,194 now I am right . I actually live here . 20 00:00:42,194 --> 00:00:44,361 My wife and I and our son , Caleb came 21 00:00:44,361 --> 00:00:46,472 here from Yokota . We were in command 22 00:00:46,472 --> 00:00:48,729 there last and I , this is my ninth 23 00:00:48,740 --> 00:00:51,599 base in 16 years . 16 years , nine 24 00:00:51,610 --> 00:00:53,777 bases . That's a lot of moving . A lot 25 00:00:53,777 --> 00:00:55,999 of moving . Yeah . Walk us through your 26 00:00:55,999 --> 00:00:57,943 career . Where'd you get started ? 27 00:00:57,943 --> 00:01:00,166 Where did you , sir ? So , for security 28 00:01:00,166 --> 00:01:02,277 force is one of the main things we do 29 00:01:02,277 --> 00:01:01,900 is security in the missile field . I 30 00:01:01,909 --> 00:01:04,131 actually started out at Fe Warren up in 31 00:01:04,131 --> 00:01:06,410 Wyoming . Uh , from there I got to do a 32 00:01:06,419 --> 00:01:08,586 little base defense exclusively . Uh , 33 00:01:08,586 --> 00:01:11,510 when I was at Moody , uh , I've done 34 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:13,982 training at our schoolhouse . I've done 35 00:01:13,982 --> 00:01:15,982 regular security forces . I've been 36 00:01:15,982 --> 00:01:17,927 overseas . Uh , it's been really a 37 00:01:17,927 --> 00:01:20,093 great ride all , uh , the whole time . 38 00:01:20,093 --> 00:01:22,316 Yeah , as a civilian I asked this a lot 39 00:01:22,316 --> 00:01:24,739 to uniform folks . What made you get 40 00:01:24,750 --> 00:01:27,669 into the air force ? Oh . you know , I 41 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:29,940 think one of the things for me was it 42 00:01:29,949 --> 00:01:32,060 just really the opportunity , right ? 43 00:01:32,060 --> 00:01:35,500 The opportunity to serve so many people 44 00:01:35,510 --> 00:01:37,510 at once . Right . On the one hand , 45 00:01:37,510 --> 00:01:39,399 obviously , as a commander , as a 46 00:01:39,399 --> 00:01:41,566 leader , I serve my unit , I serve the 47 00:01:41,566 --> 00:01:43,621 team tinker , but to get to serve an 48 00:01:43,621 --> 00:01:45,621 entire nation , uh really resonated 49 00:01:45,621 --> 00:01:47,566 with me in terms of trying to be a 50 00:01:47,566 --> 00:01:49,677 servant . And it's the feeling of , I 51 00:01:49,677 --> 00:01:51,732 think with the dod , a lot of people 52 00:01:51,732 --> 00:01:53,790 say there's a camaraderie there that 53 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:55,911 you just don't get anywhere else . It 54 00:01:55,911 --> 00:01:58,022 really is . You know , for , for many 55 00:01:58,022 --> 00:02:00,133 years , I wasn't sure how much longer 56 00:02:00,133 --> 00:02:02,244 I'd be doing this now . We're in this 57 00:02:02,244 --> 00:02:04,578 for , for , for the long haul right now . 58 00:02:04,578 --> 00:02:04,519 And I'm not gonna lie . It's kind of 59 00:02:04,529 --> 00:02:06,362 odd to think what on earth could 60 00:02:06,370 --> 00:02:08,592 possibly be after this because this has 61 00:02:08,592 --> 00:02:10,814 been amazing . What gets you out of bed 62 00:02:10,814 --> 00:02:13,037 in the morning . What keeps you going ? 63 00:02:13,037 --> 00:02:15,203 Uh My passions are to lead , train and 64 00:02:15,203 --> 00:02:17,259 defend and security force is a great 65 00:02:17,259 --> 00:02:19,426 opportunity for me to do that . I love 66 00:02:19,426 --> 00:02:21,592 getting up seeing our defenders , uh , 67 00:02:21,592 --> 00:02:23,648 having the opportunity to serve them 68 00:02:23,648 --> 00:02:25,870 and , and , and see what else can we do 69 00:02:25,870 --> 00:02:27,870 to keep making team Tinker and 72nd 70 00:02:27,870 --> 00:02:30,203 Security forces squadron a better place ? 71 00:02:30,203 --> 00:02:32,370 Uh , you know , when someone thinks of 72 00:02:32,370 --> 00:02:34,481 security forces squadron , you know , 73 00:02:34,481 --> 00:02:34,059 what do you want them to think about ? 74 00:02:34,070 --> 00:02:36,070 Kind of talk a little bit about the 75 00:02:36,070 --> 00:02:38,690 grasp of what defenders on this base do . 76 00:02:38,699 --> 00:02:40,699 Sure . Absolutely . Right . When we 77 00:02:40,699 --> 00:02:42,810 talk about security forces squadron , 78 00:02:42,810 --> 00:02:44,866 the the mission of the 72nd security 79 00:02:44,866 --> 00:02:46,977 forces squad is to defend , train and 80 00:02:46,977 --> 00:02:49,199 enable team Tinker to secure its global 81 00:02:49,199 --> 00:02:51,143 mission . We talk about that . The 82 00:02:51,143 --> 00:02:50,889 number one thing we do is defend , 83 00:02:50,940 --> 00:02:53,051 right . It's the biggest part of what 84 00:02:53,051 --> 00:02:55,009 we do if , if the ba base is under 85 00:02:55,020 --> 00:02:56,964 attack , whether that be an active 86 00:02:56,964 --> 00:03:00,850 shooter or sabotage or a gate 87 00:03:00,860 --> 00:03:02,971 runner , right . Those are the things 88 00:03:02,971 --> 00:03:04,749 that we are , that is our first 89 00:03:04,749 --> 00:03:06,860 priority , our first mission . That's 90 00:03:06,860 --> 00:03:06,619 what we're , we're , we're going after , 91 00:03:06,630 --> 00:03:08,630 right . Uh We talk about training , 92 00:03:08,630 --> 00:03:10,741 training is a huge piece for security 93 00:03:10,741 --> 00:03:12,686 forces . Obviously , when you talk 94 00:03:12,686 --> 00:03:14,741 about being the only lethal force on 95 00:03:14,741 --> 00:03:16,741 the base , we wanna make sure we're 96 00:03:16,741 --> 00:03:16,440 very proficient with that . And so 97 00:03:16,449 --> 00:03:18,616 there's we're constantly working . How 98 00:03:18,616 --> 00:03:20,838 do we get more training ? How do we get 99 00:03:20,838 --> 00:03:22,838 more proficient with what we do and 100 00:03:22,838 --> 00:03:22,580 then enable , which is really what I 101 00:03:22,589 --> 00:03:24,256 think everyone else is mostly 102 00:03:24,256 --> 00:03:26,311 interested in , right , when we talk 103 00:03:26,311 --> 00:03:28,089 about enabling team Tinker , we 104 00:03:28,089 --> 00:03:30,145 recognize that 72nd air base when is 105 00:03:30,145 --> 00:03:32,710 here to support a vast vast array of 106 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:34,929 missions . And so when we talk about 107 00:03:34,940 --> 00:03:37,529 enabling , that's everything from gates 108 00:03:37,660 --> 00:03:40,550 to customer support and uh doing 109 00:03:40,559 --> 00:03:43,830 restricted area badges or doing reports 110 00:03:43,850 --> 00:03:46,300 or you name it those kind of missions 111 00:03:46,309 --> 00:03:49,320 that we help support . Uh That to me , 112 00:03:49,330 --> 00:03:51,274 that's a big part of what we do as 113 00:03:51,274 --> 00:03:53,219 security forces . Really just this 114 00:03:53,219 --> 00:03:55,320 broad array of defending law 115 00:03:55,330 --> 00:03:57,497 enforcement , being a piece of that as 116 00:03:57,497 --> 00:03:59,386 well . Training and enabling team 117 00:03:59,386 --> 00:04:01,497 Tinker can't forget about the canines 118 00:04:01,497 --> 00:04:03,497 either . Of course , not love those 119 00:04:03,497 --> 00:04:06,660 puppies . Yeah . Um So we are kicking 120 00:04:06,669 --> 00:04:09,729 off , what is Police Week here on base ? 121 00:04:09,740 --> 00:04:11,462 Uh Talk a little bit about the 122 00:04:11,462 --> 00:04:14,649 significance of Police Week . Uh It's 123 00:04:14,660 --> 00:04:16,604 really to recognize those that put 124 00:04:16,604 --> 00:04:18,938 their lives on the line to keep us safe . 125 00:04:18,938 --> 00:04:21,049 Sure . It started back in 1972 with a 126 00:04:21,049 --> 00:04:23,216 simple vigil that happened at the , at 127 00:04:23,216 --> 00:04:25,216 the Capitol . Uh There's a memorial 128 00:04:25,216 --> 00:04:27,160 there for police officers who lost 129 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:29,216 their lives in the line of duty . Uh 130 00:04:29,216 --> 00:04:31,382 And at the time , it was about 100 and 131 00:04:31,382 --> 00:04:31,119 20 people that started at that , that 132 00:04:31,130 --> 00:04:33,279 vigil . It's grown since then to that 133 00:04:33,290 --> 00:04:35,512 vigil alone that happens in the Capitol 134 00:04:35,512 --> 00:04:37,730 is about 40,000 people now . And of 135 00:04:37,739 --> 00:04:39,961 course , it's something we celebrate uh 136 00:04:39,961 --> 00:04:42,072 across the nation . Uh Police Week is 137 00:04:42,072 --> 00:04:43,906 always the week of May 15th . So 138 00:04:43,906 --> 00:04:45,683 whether May 15th is a Monday or 139 00:04:45,683 --> 00:04:47,683 Thursday or Friday . It's that week 140 00:04:47,683 --> 00:04:49,906 that encompasses that day and it is all 141 00:04:49,906 --> 00:04:52,329 about being able to show our support to 142 00:04:52,339 --> 00:04:54,395 law enforcement . You guys are doing 143 00:04:54,395 --> 00:04:56,395 the most here on base . There's all 144 00:04:56,395 --> 00:04:58,506 sorts of tournaments . There's even a 145 00:04:58,506 --> 00:05:00,617 kickoff ceremony . Yes . Yes . We had 146 00:05:00,617 --> 00:05:02,783 the kickoff ce ceremony this morning . 147 00:05:02,783 --> 00:05:02,640 Uh , with Colonel Klaus was the , was 148 00:05:02,649 --> 00:05:04,538 the guest speaker for that , uh , 149 00:05:04,538 --> 00:05:06,760 followed up immediately with a memorial 150 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:08,927 ruck run . Only about five K . Nothing 151 00:05:08,927 --> 00:05:11,093 too crazy there . Uh , and right now , 152 00:05:11,093 --> 00:05:13,038 I actually just came here from our 153 00:05:13,038 --> 00:05:14,927 bowling tournaments and so that , 154 00:05:14,927 --> 00:05:17,149 that's a great opportunity as well . We 155 00:05:17,149 --> 00:05:19,316 also have , uh , a closing ceremony on 156 00:05:19,316 --> 00:05:21,371 Thursday and the thing that , uh , a 157 00:05:21,371 --> 00:05:23,538 lot of people are tracking is our golf 158 00:05:23,538 --> 00:05:25,538 tournament on Friday a lot going on 159 00:05:25,538 --> 00:05:27,760 there . Do you wanna switch base talk a 160 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:29,760 little bit about agen ? It's been a 161 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:31,927 pretty big change how the air force is 162 00:05:31,927 --> 00:05:34,850 generating forces for deployment . How 163 00:05:34,859 --> 00:05:38,359 are defenders adapting to that change ? 164 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:40,647 Sure . Uh , I think one of the biggest 165 00:05:40,647 --> 00:05:42,702 things to understand about Afro is , 166 00:05:42,702 --> 00:05:44,813 it's really the big change is how are 167 00:05:44,813 --> 00:05:48,750 we presenting our forces to , uh , the 168 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:50,593 Department of Defense and to the 169 00:05:50,593 --> 00:05:52,704 President in terms of how are we able 170 00:05:52,704 --> 00:05:54,427 to be used as an air force for 171 00:05:54,427 --> 00:05:56,649 defenders on the ground level ? What it 172 00:05:56,649 --> 00:05:58,760 means is we are still deploying while 173 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:01,038 also having to do our garrison mission ? 174 00:06:01,038 --> 00:06:03,204 Right . And so when you talk about the 175 00:06:03,204 --> 00:06:05,260 manpower that both has to deploy and 176 00:06:05,260 --> 00:06:07,260 fight our nation's wars overseas as 177 00:06:07,260 --> 00:06:09,371 well as stay home and defend the base 178 00:06:09,371 --> 00:06:11,427 and man uh our , our law enforcement 179 00:06:11,427 --> 00:06:13,538 post and man the gates . That's where 180 00:06:13,538 --> 00:06:15,704 the demands really come into play . It 181 00:06:15,704 --> 00:06:17,927 hasn't changed that significantly . The 182 00:06:17,927 --> 00:06:20,093 number of deploy defenders deployed at 183 00:06:20,093 --> 00:06:22,093 this time . It's more in how are we 184 00:06:22,093 --> 00:06:24,316 presenting those numbers multitasking ? 185 00:06:24,316 --> 00:06:23,929 Probably the really the name of the 186 00:06:23,940 --> 00:06:26,051 game there . Absolutely . I think the 187 00:06:26,051 --> 00:06:28,273 other big piece to it too is because of 188 00:06:28,273 --> 00:06:30,440 the way we're pairing up with people . 189 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:32,496 There's with other units , there's a 190 00:06:32,496 --> 00:06:34,662 greater demand on the training piece . 191 00:06:34,662 --> 00:06:34,600 And so leading up to it , there's , 192 00:06:34,609 --> 00:06:37,079 we've become as an air force much more 193 00:06:37,089 --> 00:06:39,311 robust than what we're expecting of our 194 00:06:39,311 --> 00:06:41,920 airmen before the deploy . Uh We've 195 00:06:41,929 --> 00:06:44,640 heard Colonel Rosetta talk a lot about 196 00:06:44,739 --> 00:06:47,690 uh the uh uh a year of competition , 197 00:06:47,730 --> 00:06:50,489 big thing uh here at Team Tinker . How 198 00:06:50,500 --> 00:06:52,722 is security forces doing with that ? So 199 00:06:52,722 --> 00:06:54,889 we love competing , right ? That's one 200 00:06:54,889 --> 00:06:56,778 of the , our , our , our favorite 201 00:06:56,778 --> 00:06:56,529 things to do . And I'm always looking 202 00:06:56,540 --> 00:06:58,762 for opportunities to be able to compete 203 00:06:58,762 --> 00:07:00,929 more . Uh That's why you see this week 204 00:07:00,929 --> 00:07:02,984 is full of tournaments . Uh Tomorrow 205 00:07:02,984 --> 00:07:05,207 we're doing our defender challenge , uh 206 00:07:05,207 --> 00:07:07,262 which is uh essentially a team event 207 00:07:07,262 --> 00:07:09,429 where you come in and see how well you 208 00:07:09,429 --> 00:07:11,651 stack up on some basic task . Defenders 209 00:07:11,651 --> 00:07:13,707 have to be proficient and I saw them 210 00:07:13,707 --> 00:07:13,559 out in the field too . Lifting tires , 211 00:07:13,670 --> 00:07:15,614 all kinds of stuff you guys aren't 212 00:07:15,614 --> 00:07:17,726 playing ? No , no . It , it's time to 213 00:07:17,726 --> 00:07:21,279 go . Uh , you know , it's really easy . 214 00:07:21,290 --> 00:07:23,540 I feel like to get complacent . Right . 215 00:07:23,989 --> 00:07:25,910 I , I think now more than ever , 216 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:28,230 especially how important is it that , 217 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:31,380 you know , something you see that maybe 218 00:07:31,390 --> 00:07:33,390 just doesn't sit well or you've got 219 00:07:33,390 --> 00:07:35,557 that gut feeling in your stomach . Why 220 00:07:35,557 --> 00:07:37,668 now more than ever is it so important 221 00:07:37,668 --> 00:07:39,760 to see something when you do see 222 00:07:39,769 --> 00:07:41,880 something to say something ? Sure . I 223 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:44,102 think there's two aspects to that . One 224 00:07:44,102 --> 00:07:46,325 is recognizing that as we were saying , 225 00:07:46,325 --> 00:07:48,547 defenders can't be everywhere at once , 226 00:07:48,547 --> 00:07:50,713 right ? And so when you're looking for 227 00:07:50,713 --> 00:07:52,991 the people who are watching for things , 228 00:07:52,991 --> 00:07:55,102 that's where all of us as airmen need 229 00:07:55,102 --> 00:07:54,899 to operate as a sensor , right ? And 230 00:07:54,910 --> 00:07:57,132 that , that's , that's big a that's all 231 00:07:57,132 --> 00:07:59,299 our civilian , civilian airmen as well 232 00:07:59,299 --> 00:08:01,466 as our military airmen . And how do we 233 00:08:01,466 --> 00:08:03,700 all function together to help protect 234 00:08:03,709 --> 00:08:06,630 our team taker ? I think a big piece of 235 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:09,070 that is identifying what does look off , 236 00:08:09,079 --> 00:08:11,301 right ? Why is this person asking me so 237 00:08:11,301 --> 00:08:13,357 many questions about this particular 238 00:08:13,357 --> 00:08:15,468 job ? Why is that person standing out 239 00:08:15,468 --> 00:08:17,589 there taking pictures ? Uh You know , 240 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:19,711 we had one recently where someone was 241 00:08:19,711 --> 00:08:21,711 asking , hey , how can I get on the 242 00:08:21,711 --> 00:08:23,933 base uh when they were just off , off , 243 00:08:23,933 --> 00:08:26,440 off base at the on cue actually asking , 244 00:08:26,450 --> 00:08:28,450 hey , can you help me get on base ? 245 00:08:28,450 --> 00:08:30,394 That's kind of not really how this 246 00:08:30,394 --> 00:08:32,394 works and I think another important 247 00:08:32,394 --> 00:08:34,283 aspect of that too is the digital 248 00:08:34,283 --> 00:08:37,010 aspect , not just our folks targets 249 00:08:37,020 --> 00:08:39,250 outside the base in person , but online 250 00:08:39,260 --> 00:08:41,316 is so important to talk a little bit 251 00:08:41,316 --> 00:08:43,538 about that . Uh , you definitely got to 252 00:08:43,538 --> 00:08:45,871 watch out for who you're living in , in , 253 00:08:45,871 --> 00:08:48,093 into your world . Right . Uh , there is 254 00:08:48,093 --> 00:08:50,260 a lot that's out there and , and quite 255 00:08:50,260 --> 00:08:52,371 frankly , we always look at it and we 256 00:08:52,371 --> 00:08:54,427 think , oh , this is harmless or who 257 00:08:54,427 --> 00:08:56,371 cares , or this information is out 258 00:08:56,371 --> 00:08:58,593 there already when really there's a lot 259 00:08:58,593 --> 00:09:00,816 of predators out there who wanna , uh , 260 00:09:00,816 --> 00:09:02,482 really be able to exploit the 261 00:09:02,482 --> 00:09:04,649 information you're putting out there . 262 00:09:04,649 --> 00:09:06,704 Now , Carl Silman , we get questions 263 00:09:06,704 --> 00:09:08,871 all the time on social media about the 264 00:09:08,871 --> 00:09:11,059 gates specifically . Why do they close 265 00:09:11,070 --> 00:09:13,760 at random ? Can you walk us through 266 00:09:13,869 --> 00:09:15,758 what might be going on behind the 267 00:09:15,758 --> 00:09:17,980 scenes ? People don't necessarily see . 268 00:09:17,980 --> 00:09:20,091 Sure . Absolutely . You know , it's a 269 00:09:20,091 --> 00:09:20,000 question I get all the time too . 270 00:09:20,010 --> 00:09:22,010 Usually through a text message from 271 00:09:22,010 --> 00:09:23,954 someone is the gate closed today , 272 00:09:23,954 --> 00:09:26,121 right ? Uh The reality is there's , if 273 00:09:26,121 --> 00:09:28,232 the gates closed , it's because we're 274 00:09:28,232 --> 00:09:30,399 responding to something at that time . 275 00:09:30,399 --> 00:09:32,621 Right ? And usually that response is we 276 00:09:32,621 --> 00:09:32,590 don't want something to leave Team 277 00:09:32,599 --> 00:09:35,299 Tinker or come on , Team Tinker , right ? 278 00:09:35,309 --> 00:09:37,309 Whether that's a gate runner and we 279 00:09:37,309 --> 00:09:39,309 have to close the gate for that and 280 00:09:39,309 --> 00:09:41,420 then it takes forever the barriers to 281 00:09:41,420 --> 00:09:43,698 reset . Sometimes that's an issue . Uh , 282 00:09:43,698 --> 00:09:43,530 sometimes it could be a missing child . 283 00:09:43,539 --> 00:09:45,539 We wanna make sure that they're not 284 00:09:45,539 --> 00:09:47,706 leaving the base without us being able 285 00:09:47,706 --> 00:09:49,872 to , to , to , to find them . Uh Other 286 00:09:49,872 --> 00:09:52,095 times it could be an alarm of some sort 287 00:09:52,095 --> 00:09:54,206 going off on , on , on the base where 288 00:09:54,206 --> 00:09:53,710 we have to respond to that and make 289 00:09:53,719 --> 00:09:55,886 sure that whatever is in that building 290 00:09:55,886 --> 00:09:58,460 is not leaving Team Tinker . Uh and , 291 00:09:58,469 --> 00:10:00,636 and make sure we're protecting what we 292 00:10:00,636 --> 00:10:02,802 have just in , in those situations . A 293 00:10:02,802 --> 00:10:04,969 little bit of patience goes a long way 294 00:10:04,969 --> 00:10:07,191 that can really help defenders do their 295 00:10:07,191 --> 00:10:09,413 job . It does just , just being patient 296 00:10:09,413 --> 00:10:11,636 and standing by understanding uh what's 297 00:10:11,636 --> 00:10:13,636 going on . We try very hard to work 298 00:10:13,636 --> 00:10:13,539 with command posts to get messages out 299 00:10:13,549 --> 00:10:15,710 over ad hoc and I think we're gonna 300 00:10:15,719 --> 00:10:17,830 keep working to find more ways to get 301 00:10:17,830 --> 00:10:20,359 information out . Uh like this podcast . 302 00:10:20,369 --> 00:10:22,510 Hey , sounds like a good idea to me 303 00:10:22,590 --> 00:10:26,130 right now . Uh Keeping on the subject 304 00:10:26,140 --> 00:10:29,619 of Gates . Uh We did uh talk about a 305 00:10:29,630 --> 00:10:32,409 new uh app that's being used to help 306 00:10:32,419 --> 00:10:35,270 with uh wait times uh at the gates . 307 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:38,650 What do you want drivers to know um or 308 00:10:38,659 --> 00:10:41,159 keep in mind to help get through uh 309 00:10:41,219 --> 00:10:43,830 gates faster here at team taker . So I 310 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:45,951 think definitely two different things 311 00:10:45,951 --> 00:10:48,062 are right when we talk about the gate 312 00:10:48,062 --> 00:10:47,849 app , right ? The gate app is something 313 00:10:47,859 --> 00:10:50,026 that really is gonna help us in a more 314 00:10:50,026 --> 00:10:52,192 strategic level , for example , uh you 315 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:54,311 know , we , we , we talk about it and 316 00:10:54,311 --> 00:10:56,422 often as defenders , it's easy for us 317 00:10:56,422 --> 00:10:56,140 to say , oh , it's just gates , we just 318 00:10:56,150 --> 00:10:58,317 manage it . We have 13 different gates 319 00:10:58,317 --> 00:11:00,659 here at Team Tinker . That's the most 320 00:11:00,669 --> 00:11:02,891 in the air force . No one else has many 321 00:11:02,891 --> 00:11:04,947 gates to be able to manage and , and 322 00:11:04,947 --> 00:11:07,058 figure out how we go . Obviously , we 323 00:11:07,058 --> 00:11:09,280 don't have all demand at any one time . 324 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:11,225 Right . That , and that's , that's 325 00:11:11,225 --> 00:11:13,447 largely based off of how do we use this 326 00:11:13,447 --> 00:11:15,502 app ? What gates are the most used ? 327 00:11:15,502 --> 00:11:17,613 And that's we're using the data to be 328 00:11:17,613 --> 00:11:19,725 able to identify that . And then once 329 00:11:19,725 --> 00:11:21,836 we get through the gate , obviously , 330 00:11:21,836 --> 00:11:23,780 the other struggle is that traffic 331 00:11:23,780 --> 00:11:25,836 afterwards . So the number one thing 332 00:11:25,836 --> 00:11:27,947 people can be really truly be patient 333 00:11:27,947 --> 00:11:30,320 uh with is , is , is that is patience , 334 00:11:30,330 --> 00:11:32,729 right ? It's easy for us to think and 335 00:11:32,739 --> 00:11:34,960 sit there and realize we've only sat 336 00:11:34,969 --> 00:11:37,025 there for two minutes waiting to get 337 00:11:37,030 --> 00:11:39,520 through the gates and sure , sometimes 338 00:11:39,530 --> 00:11:41,752 it's definitely more and there's things 339 00:11:41,752 --> 00:11:43,929 that happen , right ? Uh If a trailer 340 00:11:43,940 --> 00:11:45,718 tries to go through Tinker gate 341 00:11:46,750 --> 00:11:48,972 trailers , one aren't gonna fit through 342 00:11:48,972 --> 00:11:50,806 that serpentine and two . that's 343 00:11:50,806 --> 00:11:53,028 something that's identified in multiple 344 00:11:53,028 --> 00:11:55,083 signs along the way . How do we turn 345 00:11:55,083 --> 00:11:54,859 them around ? That turnaround takes 346 00:11:54,869 --> 00:11:56,980 time ? And that's usually the sort of 347 00:11:56,980 --> 00:11:59,147 thing that ends up back in those gates 348 00:11:59,147 --> 00:12:01,489 saying on the topic of the app , how is 349 00:12:01,500 --> 00:12:04,909 that going ? Is it uh shaping up into 350 00:12:04,919 --> 00:12:07,141 uh you know , what you see , you know , 351 00:12:07,141 --> 00:12:09,030 with any new technology , there's 352 00:12:09,030 --> 00:12:11,252 always a hiccup or two . But , uh , you 353 00:12:11,252 --> 00:12:13,475 know , knowledge is really power with , 354 00:12:13,475 --> 00:12:16,030 uh , with such new technology . Right . 355 00:12:16,039 --> 00:12:18,150 Right . And so one of the things that 356 00:12:18,150 --> 00:12:20,150 we're doing with that app is really 357 00:12:20,150 --> 00:12:22,317 looking at it from a strategic level , 358 00:12:22,317 --> 00:12:22,000 uh , it's coming along pretty well . 359 00:12:22,010 --> 00:12:24,177 There's on , there's a few more tweaks 360 00:12:24,177 --> 00:12:26,288 that we're making to it along the way 361 00:12:26,288 --> 00:12:28,566 to really make it a , a usable product . 362 00:12:28,566 --> 00:12:30,732 And we're kind of test bedding it here 363 00:12:30,732 --> 00:12:32,788 to see if it's gonna be useful other 364 00:12:32,788 --> 00:12:35,010 places as well . A lot of the data that 365 00:12:35,010 --> 00:12:34,590 we've been able to provide here , most 366 00:12:34,599 --> 00:12:36,909 other bases have similar data . And so 367 00:12:36,919 --> 00:12:39,141 they would be able to take it and apply 368 00:12:39,141 --> 00:12:41,363 that to that app as well and see how do 369 00:12:41,363 --> 00:12:44,489 we apply that here at say Hill or 370 00:12:44,500 --> 00:12:46,833 Robbins or Right pat and how , you know , 371 00:12:46,833 --> 00:12:48,944 what kind of benefits could they have 372 00:12:48,944 --> 00:12:50,833 as well ? And this data analytics 373 00:12:50,833 --> 00:12:53,000 technology , I mean , Tinker the first 374 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:55,859 in the Air Force to be able to deploy 375 00:12:55,869 --> 00:12:58,530 some of this uh tech . I think that's 376 00:12:58,539 --> 00:13:00,761 so cool and there's no better spot than 377 00:13:00,761 --> 00:13:02,872 I think , take her for something like 378 00:13:02,872 --> 00:13:05,095 that . Definitely . If , if we can make 379 00:13:05,095 --> 00:13:07,261 the gate app work here , it'll , it'll 380 00:13:07,261 --> 00:13:06,789 work just about anywhere else . Yeah , 381 00:13:06,799 --> 00:13:09,960 abs absolutely . Any insights come to 382 00:13:09,969 --> 00:13:12,136 light with this , with that app as far 383 00:13:12,136 --> 00:13:14,025 as it goes , anything that you're 384 00:13:14,025 --> 00:13:16,191 taking away from it , maybe you didn't 385 00:13:16,191 --> 00:13:18,413 expect . Sure one of the things that it 386 00:13:18,413 --> 00:13:20,580 is really helping us narrow down is uh 387 00:13:20,580 --> 00:13:22,747 what kind of effects Manning and , and 388 00:13:22,747 --> 00:13:24,969 gate traffic has on , say , holidays or 389 00:13:24,969 --> 00:13:24,900 family days and the difference is there . 390 00:13:25,099 --> 00:13:26,821 Right . We know that there's a 391 00:13:26,821 --> 00:13:28,988 difference between holidays and family 392 00:13:28,988 --> 00:13:30,877 days for a lot of our uh civilian 393 00:13:30,877 --> 00:13:33,043 airmen and what they do and manage and 394 00:13:33,043 --> 00:13:35,210 then that that's helped us manage what 395 00:13:35,210 --> 00:13:37,488 gates are open at what times for , say , 396 00:13:37,488 --> 00:13:39,969 the day after Christmas . Right . And , 397 00:13:39,979 --> 00:13:42,312 and how do we manage it that way ? Sure , 398 00:13:42,312 --> 00:13:44,423 sure . We've talked just a little bit 399 00:13:44,423 --> 00:13:46,419 about gates about uh police week , 400 00:13:46,429 --> 00:13:48,969 about more about what security forces 401 00:13:48,979 --> 00:13:51,169 their role is on base . Anything else 402 00:13:51,179 --> 00:13:53,068 you wanna mention that you'd like 403 00:13:53,068 --> 00:13:55,409 listeners to know as far as uh security 404 00:13:55,419 --> 00:13:57,641 forces getting to know uh them a little 405 00:13:57,641 --> 00:14:00,179 bit . Uh Absolutely . Our defenders are 406 00:14:00,190 --> 00:14:02,246 some of the most amazing airmen I've 407 00:14:02,246 --> 00:14:04,190 ever worked with , right ? Just in 408 00:14:04,190 --> 00:14:06,412 terms of their dedication and , and the 409 00:14:06,412 --> 00:14:08,634 professionalism and what they're trying 410 00:14:08,634 --> 00:14:10,801 to do . Of course , there's always one 411 00:14:10,801 --> 00:14:10,070 or two out there , right ? That , that 412 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:12,080 we all work through . Uh But what I 413 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:13,858 would ask people to remember is 414 00:14:13,858 --> 00:14:16,024 anecdotes versus trends , right ? When 415 00:14:16,024 --> 00:14:18,080 we talk about that and we talk about 416 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,413 how , what is the story actually saying ? 417 00:14:20,413 --> 00:14:22,524 There's always going to be outliers , 418 00:14:22,524 --> 00:14:24,580 there's always gonna be the day that 419 00:14:24,580 --> 00:14:26,580 you were stuck waiting a lot longer 420 00:14:26,580 --> 00:14:28,580 than you expect it to be . But what 421 00:14:28,580 --> 00:14:30,636 about every other day before that or 422 00:14:30,636 --> 00:14:32,858 every other day after that and you kind 423 00:14:32,858 --> 00:14:35,024 of keeping that in mind that generally 424 00:14:35,024 --> 00:14:34,979 speaking , our defenders out there 425 00:14:34,989 --> 00:14:36,933 getting the job done , just have a 426 00:14:36,933 --> 00:14:38,989 little patience at the gate . That's 427 00:14:38,989 --> 00:14:41,211 all absolutely . All right . Hey , Carl 428 00:14:41,211 --> 00:14:43,156 Si , want to thank you so much for 429 00:14:43,156 --> 00:14:45,100 joining us for this episode of the 430 00:14:45,100 --> 00:14:46,933 Taker Talks podcast . Thanks for 431 00:14:46,933 --> 00:14:48,933 listening . Thanks for watching and 432 00:14:48,933 --> 00:14:48,299 we'll see you in the next episode . Bye 433 00:14:48,309 --> 00:14:48,570 bye .